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Chill Guitar Phrases library suggestion


mschiff
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If there was a way to sort the guitar phrases by octave, where all the loops in a single octave were in the same or a complementary key, and using the same guitar sound, it would be really helpful. They are seemingly in random order which would make it very difficult to play a series of phrases that seemed to fit together. Even if there were only a few options like t his.


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glenjdiamond
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mschiff...   I suspect it might be possible to setup a user defined "curve" on one of the Macro Knobs.   The curve will then pick out your selection of phrases???

 

Save the patch to your User Library.

Copy across the Media text file for the variations from the GTR library Media folder into your User Library Media folder.

Copy the "GTR Phrase" knob using the "nipple" (just love it !  knobs and nipples in the same sentence!!!)..  then find an empty knob and use the nipple again to paste.   

You now have a duplicate macro knob. 

 It would then be a case of locating the phrases you want and double clicking into the curve (once you have moved the knob to the phrase you are looking for.... or move the slider along at the bottom of the curve).    You may need to make another double-click on the curve to make a shelf.

   Once you have one of the curves setup you can copy it to the other parameter (there are two parameters for the selection of the phrases...  one is the variation, the other is the oscillator sample select... both have to be in sync with one another for this to work.


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glenjdiamond
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I have tried out my suggestion of making custom curves.   They "mostly work" see attached

 
and here
 
 
 
and the 3rd stage of my selection...
 
However... there is an issue... when the curve hits an upright, rather than speedliy jumping to the next node, it will take its time travelling up the upright (just like incy wincy spider!) and in doing so will be selecting incorrect phrases.   So long as you are aware of the knob positions you should be able to work around this glitch.
 
see the glitch here....


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getdunne
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@mschiff, @glenjdiamond

You are both very much on the right track. Unfortunately, I will have to make further enhancements to Unify itself, to generate the very specific curves needed for what you're trying to do.

This is an example of what happens when a sound-designer pushes Unify into new territory. Limitations of its design and implementation are revealed. More work for me I suppose...


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mschiff
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The curve idea sounds like it might be useful, but it would not implement my suggestion. I have other guitar phrase libraries where the phrases are organized by key and guitar sound, and it is super easy to jam with them. When you play any phrase on a note within an octave, all of the phrases are compatible.

This was done that way:

New Finale by Starbirth | SoundClick

 

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getdunne
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@mschiff

What you are asking for is beyond the remit of the Chill GTR Phrases library (and would require many more than just 61 loops).

This is why John decided to include all 61 individual audio loops as WAV files, so you can bring them into any more generic looping program or plug-in to use as you please.

Since you're a programmer, you might enjoy playing around with an idea I had, to use Unify's built-in Ripchord Player plug-in to re-map the 61 MIDI notes however you wish. See attached .zip file. This is not a serious suggestion; it's more of an amusement.

If you'd like to experiment with generating custom stepped curve shapes, see the page on Patch Variations in the Unify manual. Scroll down to "Example downloads" at the end of Example 1, and you'll find some custom curves and the Python program used to generate them.


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Yes - this was a random sampling of guitar phrases I licensed from a sound design company in Germany. There is maybe 1 or 2 places where the phrases have a V1 and a V2 - for this library that is not part of the design. It's a random set of 61 phrases that are each independent phrases, recorded in different processes maybe in different places by different players. It's NOT supposed to be a cohesive library with variations on the same groove mapped to the notes in an octave. If you find a couple samples that work well together, AWESOME but that is designed to take work and creativity instead of just a bunch of variations of the same groove.

 

This is the first library of phrases I have released like this. It's been very popular already so I plan to make more and probably plan them to be more organized style wise.

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mschiff
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I understand. I have watched your videos. What was your concept of how this library would be used? Would the same phrase be used throughout a song?


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