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Some Tracks with BBC Discover


pjsvis
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Hi,

 

Wichita Lineman: https://soundcloud.com/peter-j-smith/wichita

Time After Time: https://soundcloud.com/peter-j-smith/time

Gentle on my Mind: https://soundcloud.com/peter-j-smith/gentle

In the Bleak Midwinter: https://soundcloud.com/peter-j-smith/bleak

 

Peter

 

 


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and something a bit more up tempo https://soundcloud.com/peter-j-smith/maisquenada


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@pjsvis It might be my ears, but I just listened to this one, (Mais que nada) and it sounds like the melody line is playing in a different key to the backing....

Probably overtones from the sound you're using (like a Hammond playing with the 5ths turned up), and my imperfect hearing!  But it does sound odd...

Sounds like it's playing a minor third above the key that the backing is in...  I know the tune very well.  Here's the Sergio Mendes version - sounds quite different:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7GsuqCTnQc

 

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@dr_rock, Here is a link to the midi file ( https://www.dropbox.com/s/pq142i5utd5pntk/maisquenada.mid?dl=0) that I used with the following instruments and tempo reduced from 177 to 160 bpm:

Piano: Guru Sampler Church Steinway Hard
Drums: Hex Drums
Bass: Ample Bass P Lite
Flutes: BBC Symphony Orch Flutes A3 Long & Staccatissimo
Trombones: BBC SO Bass A2 & Tenor A3 Trombone Long & Staccatissimo
Vocal: ProjectSAM Luminous Choir

Peter

PS Your post re tone diff between lead and backing has gone!!


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Hi Peter.  That's a really good showcase of what you can do with Discover.  I've just picked it up (free) and I'm delighted with it. 

Early days for me in the world of orchestral scoring but I'm trying to decide after I'm a little bit more up to speed with it which developer to go with.  Spitfire are great but pricey, Core at £399 is expensive (could wait for something like their 40% sale they had on Black Friday).  Also they've so many great libraries like Albion One and Olafur Arnalds it's hard to decide.  And then there's so many great developers out there like Berlin Strings and Cinestrings.

It's great though having so much choice but having picked one I'd prefer to stick with them and work through their products.

Thanks again for the listen.


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Hi there @voltaire, there are some other low cost orchestral options:

ProjectSAM is a set of free cinematic orchestral sounds from https://projectsam.com/libraries/the-free-orchestra/ playable with the free Kontakt Player

The Vienna Symphony Orchestra Big Bang Essential  https://www.vsl.co.at/en/BBO_Map/BBO_Andromeda is free but you need to buy a USB dongle for $27 to play it.

Also Spitfire LABS is a must have!

 

Also Layers is pretty good https://www.orchestraltools.com/store/collections/layers

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Yes I have Labs - the free software from Spitfire is just superb.  Thanks for the suggestions, I wasn't aware of all of them I'll take a look at those.


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@pjsvis Hi again 🙂  I downloaded that MIDI file to my Logic Pro, and all is as it should be.  It's the flute and trombone lines that are playing in the wrong key in your version - they've been offset by about a minor third up (would show in Logic as +3).  Or at least that's my guess re the interval...! 😉 

In the MIDI file they're all good - the tune is as I know it.  But I don't know what has happened in your version.  Might be worth checking that those two lines aren't set to Transpose +3 or something.  If I set Logic Pro to do that, I can get it to sound the same. 

Not being critical here - just trying to be helpful 🙂

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@dr_rock, I checked my settings for the trumpets and flutes and all looks as it should with MIDIBox file notes set to Play Only

Then I checked my settings for MIDIBox on the Piano. This was set to Poly Tpose... That means that when I hit a key to play the piece everything would play as it should, except for the piano which would transpose the piano notes as per the key that I pressed.

So when I recorded the piece I must have hit a key three semi tones away from the root and having a cloth ear never noticed.

Well spotted @dr_rock!

 

PS See the 16 Jan livestream for an explanation of how cool the MIDIBox Poly Transpose feature is: (2) Jan 16, 2021 - Unify 1.3 & DiscoverStation Preview - YouTube

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@pjsvis  Hahah - easily done 🙂  And thanks for looking into it and finding the problem.  For a moment there, I thought my hearing had deteriorated more than it actually has...!

Keep up the good work.  I just bought Discover yesterday, but due to work commitments, haven't had a chance to dive into it yet.  Hopefully on the weekend.

 


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