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RobertPeveler
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I am looking for a simple way to play Rex files in Guru Sampler, and was hoping that this tool might be the answer, but I have fallen at the first hurdle as the file I have downloaded will not open on my Win 10 machine - I suspect something is blocking it.  It does not open either as normal or via "Run as Admin", and I get no error message.  No interface opens, and there is no sign of it in task manager.  Interestingly the two other utilities from his website work fine.  Just wondering if anyone else has hit this stumbling block, and if so any suggestions about how to fix?

And am I on the right lines in thinking that this might make it possible to embed .rx2 files into the Guru Sampler?

Thanks for any thoughts.


   
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getdunne
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@robertpeveler

I've never had a problem opening Björn's .zip archives, or running his .exe applications on my Win10 machine. I'd advise grabbing the very latest v0.6.87 from his site, as apparently there were some problems with the previous one.

Note the file you download is a .zip archive, and you must actually unzip the contained BjSamMap.exe and put it somewhere to run it. Most recent Windows setups allow you to "open" zip archives as though they were ordinary folders, but this can be highly misleading. I made a new folder in the root of my C: drive where I put all of Björn's utilities, and I run them from there--no need to run as Admin.

Having said all that, I wouldn't expect Björn's programs to be able to interpret .rx2 files, though you might want to email him to ask if he has any suggestions. Also Guru Sampler itself can't use .rx2 files either; John has used manual methods to create sample maps for RX2 sample-sets. If you google "convert rx2 to wav", you'll find a number of links for utilities which may be useful. I haven't ever attempted this myself, though, so I can't advise beyond that.

If any Unify users can offer actual experience on this, please chime in!


   
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RobertPeveler
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@getdunne Thanks for (as always) speedy response - yes, I have the latest version, and have unzipped.  I will try again after a reboot.  I will also try another location for the .exe file.  I assume the utility should just run, and not need “installing”.

Re alternatives, NI Battery may be the best option, as that works well, though seems slight overkill; does have the advantage that it can load multiple loops mapped to different keys.  I can also get the TW16Wx sampler to work, but that’s a bit fiddly, because I then need to use Recycle to extract the MIDI file, then load it into MIDIBox. But then it’s very flexible.  


   
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RobertPeveler
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Still no luck with this - I have contacted Bjorn.

The other VST I have found that plays .rx2 files really easily is UVI workstation - easiest, I think, and of course free.  You can load up to 4 layers, and there are lots of controls possible (pitch, speed etc), mixing, and effects if you want them too.  Simple drag and drop of files on to the parts windows, so very quick.


   
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One possibility is that you might need to install a newer version of the "Visual Studio redistributable" bundle. Google that exact phrase and the first result (from Microsoft) should be the correct one.


   
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Thanks will give that a go.  I think this often gets updated when Native Instruments updates happen, but will see if any effect.


   
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Just an update - I remain in conversation with Bjorn, but his latest update, which he was hopeful for, is still not opening for me.  I don’t know if other Unify users have this problem, but it sounds as if (from Bjorn) I am not alone.  I think John is planning a video on this topic re Guru sampler shortly?  Guru sampler is of course “free” once you have purchased Unify, but there are other options - the TAL sampler (paid) looks quite interesting.


   
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It opens fine for me...however, it locks up when trying to go to Options/Preferences.  

Latest version .0689.  Windows 11.

I wish that Unify was compatible with Convert with Moss.

Much more elegant solution for creating SFZ files.

However, Unify cannot read its SFZs.  Example:

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
////
//// Creator : Tony Thomas
//// Category: Bass

<global>
global_label=Rez Bass

<group>
group_label=Velocity Layer 1

<region>
sample=Rez Bass Samples/Rez Bass C2.wav
pitch_keycenter=48
lokey=0 hikey=54
offset=0 end=350846
loop_mode=no_loop
<region>
sample=Rez Bass Samples/Rez Bass C3.wav
pitch_keycenter=60
lokey=55 hikey=66
offset=0 end=350846
loop_mode=no_loop
<region>
sample=Rez Bass Samples/Rez Bass C4.wav
pitch_keycenter=72
lokey=67 hikey=127
offset=0 end=350846
loop_mode=no_loop

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tony10000
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@getdunne

By the way, I sent a reminder to Moss on KVR:

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8517229#p8517229


   
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@tony10000

I have been in touch with Moss, and sent him a free license for Unify. He does not wish to provide an output mode compatible with Guru Sampler.

To convert the SFZ you provided, you need to put all the <region> tags onto single lines, e.g.

default_path=Rez Bass Samples
<region> lokey=0 hikey=54 pitch_keycenter=48 sample=Rez Bass C2.wav
<region> lokey=55 hikey=66 pitch_keycenter=60 sample=Rez Bass C3.wav
<region> lokey=67 hikey=127 pitch_keycenter=72 sample=Rez Bass C4.wav

Note I've eliminated tags which are just the defaults, and added a default_path line (supported in Unify v1.8) to simplify the sample paths.


   
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tony10000
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Okay, thanks...I will try your suggestions.

Moss replied to my post on KVR:

"I was in touch with them and the idea is to improve the Unify SFZ import, which should not be too hard to do. But I cannot tell you if or when this will happen."

I guess you are at an impasse.  


   
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"...the idea is to improve the Unify SFZ import..." because he didn't want to make the changes I suggested.

When this rises to the top of the priority list, I'll do it, but right now it's not close. Sorry, but my time is very limited at the moment.


   
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tony10000
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Understandable.  I wrote to Bjorn to see what the problem with his sample mapper is.  

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tony10000
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Did some more testing with Bjorn's Sample manager and discovered the solution:

I use multiple monitors and had two of them on and noticed the latest version was opening the Setup/Preferences window on another monitor, even if it was not in use.  
 
I switched to a single monitor and all is well...

   
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