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Aftertouch / modulate values of a macro for my CS80V


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Hello to all,

I have a keyboard that sends mono aftertouch values and that allows me to make the CS80V sound "pretty close to the real sound of the mythical CS80 in "five Circle" from the Vangelis Chariots of Five album.

I love the CS80 and its fabulous brass sounds. I have an ASM Hydrasynth that imitates perfectly the sounds of the CS80 because it has the same polyphonic aftertouch keyboard as the CS80 and that changes everything !.

I was thinking that we could do something similar with a mono aftertouch keyboard and Unify.

Here is my thought: (tell me if it is possible?) could we drive the values of a macro button by the values (0-127) returned by the mono aftertouch keyboard ?

example : i create a macro (which is linked to the pitch of the VST synth oscillator). this value can be driven by a parameter linked to the macro 1, at the macro is linked via a CC to a knob of my midi controller (classical).

but instead of the knob i would like to use the values of the aftertouch note (0-127) to drive the macro.

if we imagine that a macro can drive several patches and control all the parameters of several VSTs, this opens up awesome possibilities of expressivity.
I've joined in attached a little sound example of what I would like to modulate (CS80V coupled with Vahala Supermassive (which is free !) the sound is very close to the real CS80 but lacks the modulation that could be added by aftertouch in this way.

 


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getdunne
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@papopap

Unify doesn't support use of MIDI Channel Pressure to drive macro knobs at the moment, but it's something I hope to add.

In the meantime, you can use the free ModMate plug-in (MIDI effect) to convert Channel Pressure to a MIDI CC.


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papopap
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@getdunne ok thank's . I'll try it.


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@getdunne

I didn't realise ModMate had this capability! That also makes my new controller keyboard (Oxygen Pro 49) much more useful for controlling other cc's via aftertouch.

Thanks 👍 


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crazyray54
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I'm trying and not yet succeeding to make this work. I want to use Channel Pressure to control the volume of Instrument layers (with a Linnstrument, so several MIDI Channels).

I have ModMate on a MIDI layer, and Channel Pressure gets converted to MIDI CC60 successfully. However, the Macro knob assigned to CC60 is not responding. What am I missing?


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Posted by: @crazyray54

I have ModMate on a MIDI layer, and Channel Pressure gets converted to MIDI CC60 successfully. However, the Macro knob assigned to CC60 is not responding. What am I missing?

Unify's macro knobs come before all layers (including MIDI layers) in the signal flow, so the MIDI stream coming out of a MIDI layer cannot affect macros in the same Unify instance. However, you can do what you want by putting everything you want to control into an embedded Unify instance.


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@getdunne thanks for your help. It makes sense, but it doesn't work. I tried ModMate on a MIDI layer and setting MIDI In on the Instr layer that houses the embedded Unify to it, and ModMate on the Instr layler. ModMate outputs Channel Pressure as CC60, but the Macros on the embedded Unify layer do not respond.


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getdunne
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@crazyray54

You need to manually assign your chosen CC# to one of the knobs in the embedded Unify. See the attached patch. (Unzip and drag into Unify to load. Don't forget to save if you want to keep this in your own User Library folder.)


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crazyray54
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@getdunne yes that works. I was using the VST3 version because Windows 10 thinks the VST2 is a trojan. If I create a patch from scratch with the VST2 it works, but with the VST3 it does not. I made an exception for the VST2 and now it works perfectly.

 

BTW, for the Linnstrument I need 7 layers. With SampleTank 4, it takes 6.5 GB of RAM and a lot of CPU power, so I have to find a more economic orchestra plugin to make this work.


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