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(@hustonmusic2021)
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I'm trying to figure out why my ARP and BPM related presets do not playback. My "beats" presets do however. (I double checked the playback transpose selector on several settings as well). I am on the latest version as of yesterday. I also can't seem to get my Unified 3rd party plug-ins into the preset Browser or showing up as a selectable instrument (Zebra 2, etc) even though they show up in the Known plug-in area as both VST and AU. Strange indeed but I'm sure it's just me doing something wrong. Thanks.

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(@getdunne)
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@hustonmusic2021

The Unify browser lists only patches, not plug-ins. Plug-ins appear in the various pop-up menus when you swap or add plug-ins on a layer; see https://pluginguru.net/unify/manual/doku.php?id=first-patch.

Regarding "ARP and BPM related presets" vs. "beats" presets, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Can you be more specific?


   
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(@hustonmusic2021)
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Hey Dunne

Thanks for getting back. So with the Instruments what I meant exactly was I can't seem to get any presets from Zebra or other official Unified instruments to display presets in the Browser and playback or be able to add to a patch. No idea why. (pic attached). For the BPM related issue, any preset tagged with BPM or ARP don't play back or emit sound. In addition, every 3rd or 4th attempt at loading a preset will result in the Browser going completely blank. I have to delete and re load the Unify instrument to get it going again. Again, no idea. All seemed to work in my earlier versions so I am sure it's something basic (hopefully). Thanks very much for the help.


   
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(@getdunne)
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@hustonmusic2021

This is going to take a while to figure out. I suggest you try first with the Unify stand-alone app, rather than in a DAW. However, please tell me which DAW you use, and whether you're on Mac or Windows.

You said "all seemed to work in my earlier versions". Do you remember which version of Unify were you using before?

When you say "I can't seem to get any presets from Zebra or other official Unified instruments to display presets in the Browser", are you talking about unified libraries you had installed and working before, or about new ones?


   
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(@hustonmusic2021)
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@getdunne Ok. So I went back, re-installed and only (and meticulously) loaded up VST versions into Unify. Double checked and then grabbed all the Unified versions off the dropbox link and installed one by one. Now they load up after restarting Live 10. I use Ableton Live 10 and Live 11.

In regards to the BPM related presets, some play the pattern and some stay silent. That I can't figure out.  Anything that uses Combo Box or MIDI Box seem to be the culprit. eg: the very first preset Arrival 0: Welcome to Unity doesn't play although the MIDi indicators light up. Yet I scroll down a few to BPM-Drum: Drummer Frenzy and no sound after loading. I'll keep working with it. Otherwise just doing the whole re-install and locating did the trick on the presets loading up on the 3rd party instruments. Thanks for getting back, I appreciate it.

 


   
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@hustonmusic2021

Unify has its own internal transport (aka playhead), like a DAW, to keep multiple plug-ins synchronized. For the Unify stand-alone app, this is straightforward, but things get complicated when working as a plug-in in a DAW. By default, the Unify plug-ins sync the internal playhead to the DAW's playhead, so if your case, if BPM plug-ins aren't playing, it's probably because Ableton's transport is stopped. They should play if Ableton is either recording or playing.

Open Unify's Transport view by clicking the fourth icon from the left at the very bottom (right-pointing triangle and vertical line). Un-check the "Follow Host" checkbox, and you should find that all the BPM/ARP patches play as expected. Let me know if not.

Host synchronization is one of the trickiest parts of Unify's design, and I'm sure our implementation is less than ideal. I welcome any suggestions for how we might do this better.


   
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