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Can Unify route midi created by plug-ins like Scaler?

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(@barza)
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By now there are a number of VSTs which generate midi output as well as or rather than audio. I am thinking of things like Scaler but also Phrasebox, Chordpotion, Kirnu Cream, and so on. Is it possible to use these within Unify? As currently configured, the midi from these plug-ins has to be generated outside of unify and then sent to the vsts hosted within it. But it would be a useful if a midi generating app/plug-in like Scaler could send its midi to other unify layers, for instance. You could then have your midi transformation going on within it and save thing as a preset.….


   
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(@thsve)
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@barza

I don't know if this is what you asking, but see my short clip showing an example using UNIFY, Scaler 2 and BBC Orchestra.

https://youtu.be/Q7N_lg2eNCc

 

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@barza

Absolutely. The ability to use MIDI-generating plug-ins and route their output flexibly is one of the most important features of Unify. It's particularly important for DAWs that either don't support this at all, or make it so clumsy to set up that it's not worth the effort.

Every INST layer in Unify allows the option to add a chain of "MIDI-effect" plug-ins to modify the MIDI data-stream going to the instrument plug-in, and you can also put such MIDI-effect chains onto separate MIDI layers, where their output can be routed to multiple INST layers simultaneously. If you need even more flexibility, you can use the built-in ComboBox plug-in.

For more details, see https://pluginguru.net/unify/manual/doku.php?id=midi-details


   
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(@barza)
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thsve and Shaun - thanks very much for the replies. The functionality is obviously there and I just didn't understand it.

 

For some reason, I had it in my mind that the midi layers and effects could only use what was provided by Unify natively. Now I see you can use any VST which generates a midi output, its obvious there is a lot of flexibility there. In my defense, I did check the online manual. Maybe it is implicitly there there already, but it does not make it very clear that you can use any third party vst with midi processing to do this.

Thanks again.

 


   
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I love this feature of Unify. One question: can I load multiple instances of Scaler/Unify on separate tracks in my DAW to benefit from this combo across instruments? I'm thinking 10-15 tracks, each containing Unify with Scaler sending midi data inside each instance. Will I see any significant performance issues?


   
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Posted by: @wabashprof

I love this feature of Unify. One question: can I load multiple instances of Scaler/Unify on separate tracks in my DAW to benefit from this combo across instruments? I'm thinking 10-15 tracks, each containing Unify with Scaler sending midi data inside each instance. Will I see any significant performance issues?

That should work with no issues.

 


   
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