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Does or will Unify have anything like ANA2's CMD - Chord Memory Device? Other 3rd party stuff like Scaler, Cthulu etc?

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ANA2 is on sale right now for under $60 and I watched Skippy's video on it and some others - I don't really need another VST for analog/wavetable sounds (especially since I'm demoing Spire right now too and reeeeallly like it), BUT... the Chord Memory Device looks like a great implementation of a chord device.  One thing I really like about how ANA2 implements it is it shows you the multiple keyboards very clearly, so you can easily see what notes it's selecting, which helps build your own musical knowlege.

Does anyone know enough about how CMD works in ANA2 and what Unify's current and likely near-future MIDI functions will be in this regard?  Or of other 3rd party MIDI effects that I could use in Unify for this purpose?

Or would something like Scaler from PluginBoutique work as a MIDI effect inside Unify?  I also wonder, since Scaler can send MIDI out, if you could use this inside Unify to get around Unify's current lack of MIDI out, so you could control hardware and software with Scaler inside Unify?

 


   
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We're well aware of ANA2's excellent chord memory interface. I'm working on something similar, but it won't be out for quite a while.

Have a look at Ripchord ( https://trackbout.com/ripchord ) which is completely free. Works fine in Unify, and our built-in Ripchord Player can also play its preset files (though does not support all the newest features introduced in Ripchord v2).


   
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@getdunne

Are you familiar with Music Lab products (Real Guitar etc.) and their chord detection system? Most of the chorder plugins allows you to allocate only one output chord per input note - but Music Lab also uses combinations of two or three notes - you can just change Major chord (played with one finger) into Minor one just by putting another finger on the next key and holding both notes together. It's difficult for me to describe it, but if you can play the piano a little bit, (but not good enough to play full chords with your left hand;), this is what you can do: 

In the Unify insert the Music Lab Real Guitar plugin as a effect on your MIDI layer, and activate it's midi output (Setup->Output Mode->Midi Only) and switch to Chords tab. (you can also add a BlueArp as a 2nd midi effect to the same layer). Now route it to your instrument layer - can be piano or anything else (select the input range if you want the chords to be played ie. on lowest notes of your keyboard). With all this together you've got the best chorder ever;) 

 

 


   
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@getdunne - thanks I'll check it out!  I decided to go ahead and get ANA2 anyway, so I'll be playing with it in Unify and see what I can do.

 


   
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@robert-p - Interesting, no I hadn't heard of that one.  It sounds like it works like the extra keys in Kontakt etc that let you add effects etc to a sampler instrument as you're playing, cool idea.  I'm not sure I would use that, since I'm not looking at it from a players perspective, more from how to quickly experiment with different tonalities for my compositions, and also to clearly visualize what's happening to sharpen my knowledge of chords.  But it seems in the world of chord apps, there are a ton of different goals and approaches, so I'll check it out!

 


   
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@getdunne - Just FYI, I confirmed that since ANA 2 sends MIDI out, I was able to load it as a MIDI effect in Unify standalone and use ANA 2's CMD to control Spire.  😀  Is it possible to route the MIDI from one instrument layer to another, so I can have the CMD playing sounds from it's own instrument layer as well as another?  So far I was only able to do that using ANA 2 on a MIDI layer (ie ANA 2 on MIDI, Spire and ANA 2 on instrument).

I haven't tested it with hardware, but I'm guessing since Unify does't send MIDI out yet, it might not work.  Although I wonder if I open Unify as a plugin in my DAW if I could use the DAW's MIDI routing to go out to hardware and in to Unify > ANA 2 as well...

 


   
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@hostnik

There isn't a way to route MIDI from INST layers, sorry. You'll have to put ANA2 on a MIDI layer (as you have done) to use its MIDI output.

Unify has no MIDI output capability at the moment, but we're working on it, and a basic MIDI-out capability will be available soon.


   
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@getdunne - yep thanks, you had already mentioned you're working on MIDI out.  Having tons of fun in the meantime.  🙂

 


   
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It would be great to have MIDI output capability, however, it is possible to partially fix the problem with 3rd party software, ie. Kushview Elements, which is a freeware and works quite good with the Unify.

 


   
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There is also PizMidi free chorder available that has a chord-learning capability - it is possible to transfer chord progressions from ANA2 that way


   
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