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March 29, 2020 6:16 pm
Dear Shane
after creating a patch with 4 layers on polybox I observed that the aftertouch does not act on layers 2, 3 and 4 while all the other controlers work (pitch bend, modwheel).
The midi indicator light clearly shows that noon does not fit into layers 2 3 4 while it does fit into the first.
The 4 layers all have the same original Omnisphère patch .would I have forgotten to configure something?
The midi indicator light clearly shows that noon does not fit into layers 2 3 4 while it does fit into the first.
The 4 layers all have the same original Omnisphère patch .would I have forgotten to configure something?
see attached photo
Dominique
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March 30, 2020 10:34 pm
Have you set PolyBox to Pool Size 4, MIDI channel 1?
BTW that MIDI layer #2 isn't connected to anything. You probably knew that.
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March 31, 2020 8:02 am
Have you set PolyBox to Pool Size 4, MIDI channel 1?
BTW that MIDI layer #2 isn't connected to anything. You probably knew that.
Yes Polybox pool size is 4 midi channel 1 .
yes midi filter is not used . I removed it .
Everything works perfectly except aftertouch only on layer 1 .
When I move the pitch bend or modwheel the 4 the four midi indicator lights are activated (green dot) .
But when I used aftertouch only the first layer midi light become green
To be sure I created a new patch from the John template and 4 layers guru sampler (see photo ) . The result is the same . only the aftertouch works on the first layer . while everything else works on all 4
I also did a test on John's patch "SYNTH - POLYBOX 4X DREAM PAD" with the same result.
The same result also with another keyboard control . Does it works on your side ?
Dominique
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March 31, 2020 3:13 pm
Well spotted, thank you! I found the problem, and this will be fixed in the next release.
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March 31, 2020 3:33 pm
dear Shane
I am happy to help you with my little means 😊 . thank you especially for helping us. I wanted to simulate a CS80 with the poly aftertouch . it will probably be very close to the real
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
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April 2, 2020 2:54 pm
I wanted to simulate a CS80 with the poly aftertouch . it will probably be very close to the real
As far as I understand, you will not be able to do that with a normal AT-(channel pressure)-keyboard.
Since PolyBox will simply copy the AT-messages received to all used MIDI-channels (as it currently does with pitch-bend), all four Guru Sampler - voices will react in the same way. So there will be no difference as if you played a polyphonic patch with standard AT which means f.e. the cutoff-filter will open on all 4 voices simultaneously and not on only one voice like on a CS80 (or with MPE-hardware). BTW I will open another thread regarding PolyBox and poly-pitch-bend with MPE-hardware.
Best, Rob
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April 2, 2020 3:25 pm
Hello Rob
thank you for this clarification. indeed after reflection I think you are right unfortunately 🙂 .
thank you for this clarification. indeed after reflection I think you are right unfortunately 🙂 .
As I ordered an Osmose from Expressive E I hope to be able to do it from this keyboard.
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
April 2, 2020 4:38 pm
As I ordered an Osmose from Expressive E I hope to be able to do it from this keyboard.
Definitively !!
I ordered one too 🙂
April 2, 2020 5:18 pm
Hello Rob
thank you for this clarification. indeed after reflection I think you are right unfortunately 🙂 .As I ordered an Osmose from Expressive E I hope to be able to do it from this keyboard.
If it doesn't work, please let us know. I hope to get an Expressive E as well and we'll make sure it works!
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April 2, 2020 5:36 pm
As I ordered an Osmose from Expressive E I hope to be able to do it from this keyboard.
Definitively !!
I ordered one too 🙂
Nice !!! 😉 😀
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
Topic starter
April 2, 2020 5:38 pm
Hello Rob
thank you for this clarification. indeed after reflection I think you are right unfortunately 🙂 .As I ordered an Osmose from Expressive E I hope to be able to do it from this keyboard.If it doesn't work, please let us know. I hope to get an Expressive E as well and we'll make sure it works!
Hi John
with great pleasure . Just wait to be delivered. I think that under the circumstances there will be a little delay in deliveries 😊
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
Topic starter
August 27, 2023 2:10 pm
Hello Shane
I resume on this subject because now that I have the Osmose since some months .
I use the Osmose keyboard in MPE mode with Plasmonic Pigment and other Cherry Audio synths .
And I also use Poly Aftertouch mode with Omnisphere and GX-80 Cherry Audio.And it works perfectly.
I just noticed in Poly Aftertouch, when the unify layer is transposed by one or more semi tone (midi semi tone offset) the poly Aftertouch is no longer active.
However I put the midi monitor at the input of the layer to check and it receives the aftertouch well whatever the transposition but Omnisphere or GX-80 seem not to receive it.
As soon as you reset the midday semi tone offset to 0, it works again.
Would you have a solution?
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
August 27, 2023 2:30 pm
Interesting observation--thanks for reporting this! I'm sure it's a bug.
Please try using an instance of MIDI Filter to transpose the notes (instead of the layer's MIDI controls), and let me know if your aftertouch messages work as expected. I don't have a poly-aftertouch capable MIDI controller to test with.
Topic starter
August 27, 2023 2:56 pm
Thank you Shane
I tried your solution with the Unify midi filter and also the Reaper midi filter at the track input.
But in both cases the Poly Aftertouch stops working after transposition.
let me know if you need more checks
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
August 27, 2023 4:21 pm
I believe I have found the problems in the code, and I have a fix. It will appear in the next release.
If you would like to help test this, please email UnifySupport@PlugInGuru.com, mention this conversation, and ask to be added to the beta-testers group.
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August 27, 2023 4:30 pm
Ok Shane
I will do it 😉
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
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October 18, 2023 10:25 am
dear Shane
Following your recommendation John included me in the list of beta testers.
but regarding the polyphonic aftertouch bug that we talked about I haven't received anything yet.
Is it still too early to receive it?
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
October 19, 2023 2:22 am
@dominique I’m away from the office until the 24th. I will try to get something to you after I return.
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November 23, 2023 5:36 pm
Dear Shane
I just tried the new beta version 1.11.1 and the problem mentioned in this topic is gone.
so well done and thank you very much !!
I am going to order Vocalesque right now 😍
Dominique
WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate .
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