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Neil
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Hi all,

I am sure someone can point me to one of John's tutorials which went through how to show key splits on the keyboard in different colours for different layers, and how many layers can you spread across the keyboard without overlap?

Thanks

Neil

 


   
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There are a couple of useful vids ... this one springs to mind ...

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And with a Unify arranged set of Orchestral instruments, this VST (Devisimate) sounds incredible ...

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@neil See https://pluginguru.net/unify/manual/doku.php?id=key-zones

@m4marky Please try simply pasting link URLs directly into your posting text, instead of using the link button. For reasons I don't understand, the link button only works for some people (admins?).


   
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@getdunne Thank you for the reference.

@m4marky Thank you for the Devismate referral which I am currently chasing up.  Could you please follow @getdunne's advice to post me to the vids you recommended.

 

Cheers

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@neil Hi there. I did just copy and paste the link and didn't use the link function? I just assumed it was an anti-spam filter of some kind.

Just add /watch?v=RFTvIy73cCc&t=232s to the Youtube dot com URL.

I'm clearly still suffering from NME ... new member excitement !

 


   
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@getdunne so sorry ... interestingly, I didn't use the link function? ... just plain old copy and paste of the URL ... it's probably for the best though as it filters out potential advert attempts etc.


   
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@m4marky

This forum software absolutely mystifies me. It seems to allow some users to include links, and disallow others. I thought this only applied to links entered using the link button, but based on what you just reported, I guess that's not the case. I think it may be related to how many posts someone has made, i.e., you may have to post at least X times (whatever X may be) before you're allowed to include links. I wish I could shed more light on this.

In the meantime, please post your links "spelled out" e.g. "www <dot> blahblah <dot> com <colon, double slash> blah.blah.html" and I'll edit your post and fix them up for you. Sorry for the fuss.


   
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@getdunne Thanks Shane ... yep already done. So worries about the filtering ... TBH I get sick of having to trawl through ad-bots that have made it through to other forums, so maybe better the devil you know. BTW, I have some feedback about the demo version of Unify but don't want to put on public forum ... please advise best route for getting this over to you. Cheers, Mark


   
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@m4marky

Thank you for the Divisimate link.  I have contacted the Company and they have given me a 7 day trial to test-drive the app.  They say Divisimate is equally applicable to other genres of music such as jazz and pop as to orchestral so I look forward to trying it out in wider applications of Unify.  Have you had any success in widening its application?   In your response to my original post you attempted to send me two video links, please could you send me the first one in the right format.

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@neil I Neil ... I think Shane sent the link to you already? Good news re the 7 day trial ...

Meanwhile, I'm trying to settle on a workflow that incorporates Divisimate, Scalar2, InstaComposer and even a couple of Blue Cat's plugins, especially 'Connector' which enables me to output multiple separate audio-outs from a single instance of Unify into individual tracks in Ableton Live. Suffice to say I'm making things way too complicated at the moment ... especially as the more I dig into Unify's included midi devices (e.g. MIDI Filter, MIDI Monitor, CombBox etc.) the more I realise how few extra 3rd party plugins I actually need; I'm also testing how many multiple instances of Unify I can run across Ableton Live tracks and how many nested instances I can run within each track before everything falls over! ... so short answer, Divisimate functionality deeper dive is currently still on the todo list 😉


   
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@m4marky

Sorry, no link from Shane.

Really looking forward to trying Divisimate in Unify but I am currently enthusing about using SyncPlay the sample playing plugin from Rast Sound which  I am spreading multiple instances of across multiple layers of Unify and applying key splits across my keyboard by just adjusting the midi keys and semitones ranges.  I love how SyncPlay has continuous loop playing as different keys are pressed and doesn't automatically restart loops.  I am just about to add Unify libraries into the sound to fatten it out.  Unify is just a glorious tool to experiment with and so intuitive when bringing in new plugins - love it!

 

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@getdunne Thanks Shane ... yep already done. So worries about the filtering ... TBH I get sick of having to trawl through ad-bots that have made it through to other forums, so maybe better the devil you know.

At least two new bots do get through here every day, and every day I have to swat them down. There seem to be hundreds of fake account registrations every month--I have no idea how they get in. Many don't post right away, so I can't tell they're fake. Many have taken to using simplistic AI tricks to post semi-realistic comments on existing topics rather than creating new ones. Tiresome.

BTW, I have some feedback about the demo version of Unify but don't want to put on public forum ... please advise best route for getting this over to you. Cheers, Mark

I'm not afraid of public criticism, so post here if you wish, or email UnifySupport@PlugInGuru.com and request that John/Taylor forward to me.

Re Divisimate links, I didn't send any to anyone. I just noticed the clever workaround you used above, to effectively define this YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFTvIy73cCc&t=232s


   
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Now you're just showing off with your high-status URL bombs lol. Demo feedback is not criticism, but also not really PD, so will do. Thanks again Shane 😉


   
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@neil ok, will get there in the end ... you've probably seen the video by now anyway! ... youtu  dot be/UJhsqeWY94M ...


   
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@m4marky

Hi,

I am having some real fun trialling Divisimate but it is not going as I wanted with Unify, although it works fine with all my other plugin instruments. I don't know if there would be sufficient interest in starting a separate topic on the matter but, please, if you don't mind I hoped you might be able to help me out from your own experience? 

I am using it in Logic Pro and creating multi Unify tracks to link to the appropriate Divisimate ports.  However I don't get stable output from the setup when playing my keyboard.  How have you set up the Midi source, Midi channel and Midi channel conversion for your Unify inputs, and any other advice would be appreciated?

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Neil


   
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@neil 

I' a little snowed under with work at the moment, but I will revisit it (hopefully next weekend).

I seem to recall placing Blue Cat's Connect plugins (in transmit mode) on each Unify instrument layer within my Unify Divisimate preset and placing single Blue Cat Connect plugins on each track in Ableton Live. Don't quote me though. Have a good week 😉

 


   
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@m4marky

Thanks for the pointer.  I have the Blue Cat Connector plugin but have not as yet used it so it will be a chance to start to put it through its paces.  I am impressed with Divisimate sufficiently to purchase it, so your more detailed advice on linking Unify, Connector and Divisimate will be much appreciated as soon as you can.  You also have a great week.

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@neil hi Neil, just been reading thru the archives (no, still not allowed back in the studio until the weekend I'm afraid) ... saw this post and thought you might be interested in the thread ... its another case of mo plugins mo money but there are some great deals out there as SSS has been out for quite a while now ... https://forums.pluginguru.com/favorite-libraries/indiginus-solid-state-symphony/#post-9809. Another Unify match made !

Cheers, Mark 


   
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@neil  I meant to mention previously, my divi input was from a single midi keyboard. I started with one of the simple triad presets in divi. Made sure divi was activating each of the 3 Unify instrument layers correctly (i.e. in terms of a 3 note slightly flammed chord playing across each layer in turn) and then watched the 3 track meters rise and fall in Ableton ... effectively mirroring the vst volume bars in each Unify layer. Each pair of trans rec blue cat connect modules were port configured 5001, 5002 and 5003 (a simple reminder as to which track they were linked to in Live (I.e. 1, 2 and 3). Aside from that, i wont be able to remember anything else technical until I'm sat back in the studio. But in the meantime it might help with the mad professor experiments (sinister laugh). Cheers 


   
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@m4marky

Thanks for the advice and SSS tip which I will follow up.  Divisimate is an endless opportunity for refining layered instruments and I guess something which will take a lot of application to master.  I have been messing with it in Dub Reggae music, and having the ability to harmonise across instruments is a delight.  Any further advice would, of course, be appreciated.

 

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@neil meanwhile ... another 30 day trial beckons if you haven't already tried it ... noteperformer dot com ?


   
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@neil i had to uninstall divisimate as the 32 virtual ports were causing system issues in Ableton 11. I may be maxing out on i/o resources somehow. On the plus side I managed to get 2 launchpads working as standalone iso keyboards which means I no longer have to run Live 10 as a slave to Live 11 (running 12 remote scripts rather than 6). Bottom line is it should simplify the Rig setup and might stop the virtual port issues Ive been having. Will reinstall Divisimate next weekend and try again. Meanwhile I'm trying to find a solution to run 4 Akai APC Mini clip launchers as standalone iso keyboards ... with the end goal of having UNIFY as one single live DAW talking to 12 separate pieces of Midi hardware in a single multilayer patch ... hopefully with Divisimate as the primary midi layer feeding the rest. I would lose the ability to record layer audio separately unless Blue Cat connect modules could feed into a dedicated mastering host ... I wondered about mixbus32 but it's a bit pricey. I guess it's all progress of a sort.

 

 

 


   
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