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Ironbarkbob
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July 9, 2020 12:33 am  

Hi guys I have had this issue With unify since the begging.

While working in studio one 4 pro and composing with unify saving what I have made and closing down studio one app-on opening again

all the unify patches I have used are out of tune to the original key I have set. This doesn't happen with third party vst's .

My work around to get the patches back in tune is to use brows and select the patch below the patch Im having tuning issues with and then re-select the original patch and the patch is back in tune. The only problem with this is that I lose any changes I have made -panning volumes-ect.

When Im composing I often use many instances of unify and it is a pain to get every patch back to the original key.

Im using windows 10.

Sorry for the long winded query. Regards to all. Rob


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getdunne
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July 9, 2020 1:48 am  

@ironbarkbob

This sounds like an issue with sample rates. What sample rate do you use in your Studio One projects? When you re-load, do patches go sharp or flat, and by how much, approximately?

Are you using the VST3 version of Unify? If so, please test with the VST2 version and let me know if it has the same problem.


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Ironbarkbob
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July 9, 2020 4:39 am  

Hi Shayne. Im running studio one at 48 khz and the key is going sharp by one note.

Thanks Rob.


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getdunne
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July 9, 2020 11:20 am  
Posted by: @ironbarkbob

Im running studio one at 48 khz and the key is going sharp by one note.

OK, this tells me Unify is starting up at 44.1 kHz and either isn't getting, or isn't responding to, the instruction from Studio One to switch to 48 kHz.

Did you test the Unify VST2 version to see if it has the same issue?


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Ironbarkbob
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July 10, 2020 12:28 am  

Hi Shayne. Same issue in either version although when I bounce to a wave file the tuning is correct.

I hope Im spelling your name correctly?

Reagrds Rob


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getdunne
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July 10, 2020 12:38 am  

@ironbarkbob

Thanks for testing the VST. I have Studio One here, so I'll do some testing and try to track down this problem.

My name is Shane - no "y" - thanks for asking!


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getdunne
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July 12, 2020 1:30 am  

@ironbarkbob

I have set up my PC (running Windows 10) to try to reproduce this issue, using a Steinberg UR44 audio interface. I had a hell of a time getting S1 to actually switch from 44.1 kHz to 48 kHz, until I realized (after Googling and finding tons of other people complaining about the same issue) that you have to set the rate in each song. I tested using Unify VST and VST3, and was not able to reproduce the issue of Unify coming up out-of-tune after saving and re-loading a song saved at 48 kHz (with or without closing and re-opening S1 in between).

Can you please give an example of a Unify preset that goes out of tune in this way? I tested several, and also tried loading third-party VST and VST3 plug-ins inside the Unify instances, but in every case, Unify came back up perfectly in tune.

Maybe tell me even more details about your exact setup, including which audio interface you use. I can't track down any problem until I can reproduce it, and so far, I've failed.


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don1thedon
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October 13, 2020 12:51 am  

Hi Shane, sorry for digging out an old thread but was wondering whether you had made any progress investigating this issue at all, I realise the thread kinda stopped when you asked for further detail so maybe not?

I use Studio One 4 Pro with Win 10 (48 KHz, 24 bit) with a Babyface Pro & have hit problems where Unify is out of tune when loading a saved song a number of times recently. This is not something I had originally noticed because I (now) realise that my older laptop that I was using to explore Unify was configured for 44.1. Anyway I can hit the issue pretty consistently so I'm happy to provide further details if they can be of use, but wanted to check 1st what info might be required if you need to explore this further.

One thing to add is that I am not sure it relates to any specific presets as I can replicate this issue with the default sine wave preset although I do appear to get different "options to resolve" the issue depending on what audio driver I use.

Quick question - is there any way to identify whether a Unify instrument is VST2 or VST3 after it is already loaded in S1?

Many thanks for your support and developments, all the best Don


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getdunne
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October 13, 2020 1:30 am  
Posted by: @don1thedon

Quick question - is there any way to identify whether a Unify instrument is VST2 or VST3 after it is already loaded in S1?

No, there is no way to check this in Unify itself.

I haven't made any further progress on the tuning issues, since as I said, I was unable to reproduce it. I can only fix it once I can reproduce it.

You said it happens when "loading a saved song". Are you loading songs saved on your older laptop (hence at 44.1 kHz) into your newer machine (set for 48 kHz)? If so, I can try that here.


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don1thedon
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October 13, 2020 9:10 am  

@getdunne I now have both machines set to 48 kHz & I'm pretty sure this has still occurred but I want to be absolutely sure to eradicate anything obvious 🤨. I'll start running a series of different variables on new projects (e.g. VST, laptop, interface etc) to see if I can better isolate the issue and get back to you with some details.


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