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DOMINIQUE
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I'm doing a survey on Vital and Windows 10.
for several weeks there have been numerous reports of malfunctions and crashes of Vital with Windows 10, whether in standalone Vital or Unify. I had no problem until now and now I too cannot open Vital.
On the other hand in Unify I can load the presets and play Vital provided I do not open the GUI.
Can any of you who have Vital on Windows 10 confirm if it works for you in Unify and standalone ?

 
 
 
 
 

 

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Posted by: @dominique

Can any of you who have Vital on Windows 10 confirm if it works for you in Unify and standalone ?

There is very nasty bug in Vital's memory management - RAM is not released when the plugin is unloaded. Load/unload it several times and you'll run out of memory, most likely crashing any host application. See the video below demonstrating how the RAM consumption grows:

https://youtu.be/fd5sUXrBCJM

 


   
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DOMINIQUE
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impressive video indeed, I didn't know this one .

I tried to reproduce this bug on my Unify and for my part the memory frees up every time

Thank you Robert !

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WIND 10 Reaper 6 Kronos / Osmose / Motif / Vsynth / Karma / Omnisphere 2.8 / Keyscape / Nylon sky / Undercurrent /Stylus / UVI Ravenscroft & Orchestral suite, Spitfire Originals collections & Labs , BBCSO core ,Abey road 2, Frozen strings , Albion Tundra , Solo strings, Chamber strings evolution, British drama tool kit, Fragile strings evolution , Aperture , Appassionata ,Mercury Solar, Orchestral tool Habitat & Salu, Arturia Pigments , Rapid Parawave , Plasmonic, Surge , Descent Sampler, Flow motion, Pianoteq pro, Memorymode, Sine ,Bx_Oberhausen, FM8, Eight voices, Dreamsynth, GX-80, Lion, Byome, Triad, Royal Albert hall Organ, Kniffonium, Vital, Minimonsta 1&2 , Imposcar ,Surge ,Generate , Oddity 3 , PhasePlant


   
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Posted by: @dominique

I tried to reproduce this bug on my Unify and for my part the memory frees up every time

 

That's interesting! I had the same issue with Synthmaster 2 - the bug was confirmed by KV331 Audio and fixed in Synthmaster 3 (early alpha version). I didn't report my finding to the Vital developer - I just stopped using the plugin. I have no idea why Vital eats my RAM and spares yours 😀


   
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at least I don't have this problem 😉 

Fortunately, thanks to Unify I can still load and use the Vital presets from my Unify library. but I can no longer program or edit Vital

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I did the test on my Win 11 machine. Exactly the same behaviour as @dominique, but only with the VST2 version of Vital, not with the VST3. Also did the same test in Cubase with Vital and it is exactly the same, VST2 "eats" RAM but not VST3.

Win 10 and 11/Cubase Pro 12/Unify/Wavelab 8/Vienna Pro 7/Spectrasonics all/NI 13 Ultimate/Izotope MPS2/Serum/Cthulhu/Scaler 2.5/MusicLab guitar vsts/BIAB 2022/TouchOSC/Metagrid Pro etc


   
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Posted by: @thsve

VST2 "eats" RAM but not VST3.

Thanks for the info! I did my test with VST2 - I'll try VST3 later on.

 


   
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Thank you Thomas ! and what about Vital standalone in win 11 ? can you open it ?

Dominique
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@dominique 

Yes, no problems at all (version 1.5.5).

Win 10 and 11/Cubase Pro 12/Unify/Wavelab 8/Vienna Pro 7/Spectrasonics all/NI 13 Ultimate/Izotope MPS2/Serum/Cthulhu/Scaler 2.5/MusicLab guitar vsts/BIAB 2022/TouchOSC/Metagrid Pro etc


   
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DOMINIQUE
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thank you Thomas.

indeed I have had other feedback which confirms that it seems to work with Windows 11.

On the other hand, there are many reports that Vital no longer works with Windows 10.

I hope the team will react but it is impossible to contact them except on the Vital forum.

I have a paid version and some libraries that I bought with it.

Dominique
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