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(@craigr68)
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I don't think Unify is showing the correct vst parameter list for Lounge Lizard rhodes vst.  The screenshots show Unify versus Cakewalk name comparisons.  As a result, I cannot assign Chorus depth to a Macro control and get it to work.  However, it does work with Cakewalk automation.  Unify's list shows multiple "Depth" parameters but doesn't differentiate which is Chorus depth from which is Tremolo or Phaser depth.  Why would these differ and Cakewalk's list work but not Unify's?  It looks like all the words before the : are missing.  Thanks.

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@craigr68

Thank you for the report. I had to dig pretty deeply to figure out what's happening here. It seems that AAS does something with parameter names on the VST2 version of Lounge Lizard Session 4, that trips up some code I had to add to get correct parameter-names with even older VST2 plug-ins. Curiously, this does not happen with their more expensive Lounge Lizard EP-4 plug-in.

There are two ways around this issue with Unify 1.9:

  1. Switch to using the VST3 version of Lounge Lizard Session 4. It does not have this issue.
  2. Hold down ALT (Option on Mac) when clicking the icon to add a new linked parameter. This will replace the name of the parameter (e.g. "Depth") with a numeric designation (e.g. "#14" for the second "Depth" which is actually Chorus Depth). This will always work.

I will make some notes about this in my to-do list, and also mention it to the AAS developers.

UPDATE: I have found a way to code around this. It should be fixed in the next Unify release. (And since you are a beta tester, you can try it as soon as I get a beta out.)


   
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Thanks.  I switched to vst3 and that appears to work as you indicated.  I have another issue related to this Rhodes patch I'm working on.  I'm using PanFlow on the Master layer.  I have it working fine doing an auto-pan left to right.  The problem I'm having is, I save the Unify patch but it doesn't retain that setting when I reopen the patch.  In the vst I've tried to lock it, set it as preset1 button, etc., but nothing seems to solve this.  I can go back into Panflow and select the preset and it's fine otherwise.


   
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I just realized that tremolo within the LL vst does panning even better, so no need for PanFlow.  But still curious why PanFlow settings weren't retained.


   
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@craigr68

Unify requests the state of every plug-in instance used in a patch, saves that with the patch, then restores it to the appropriate new plug-in instance when the patch is recalled. It sounds like PanFlow might not be working correctly, but I don't have that plug-in.

Does PanFlow's state get saved/recalled perfectly when you use it directly in your DAW? If so, please report this issue to the PanFlow developer, and let them know we'll be happy to provide them a copy of Unify for testing, if they contact UnifySupport@PluginGuru.com.


   
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Panflow exhibits the same problem in Cakewalk.  It doesn't retain Sync Off setting so after saving and reloading the patch, it always switches back to Sync On.  With Sync On, it waits for transport and does work that way.  It does work with MIDI/Quick Stop selected.  However, I want it to run asynchronously without transport running and it should retain that setting.  Maybe I'll ping AudioModern about it.  Maybe there's a newer version.  I thought John might have shown 3 of their plugins - PanFlow, Gatelab, and Filterstep.  Thanks again.    

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