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So many thoughts today.
With Combobox, MIDIBox, JitterBox, etc., what about some sort of integrated Step Sequencer?

With the polyphonic transpose features and what DiscoverStation has ushered in, the thought would be to sort of have a mechanism to provide an option outside of the MIDI file creation step and have a STEP SEQUENCER handle that task. It could be single-note rhythms (velocities, etc.) using poly transpose into MIDIBox, the steps could also have chromatic note assignment to create motifs. The number of bars, time sig, etc. could be customizable. 

This would integrate part generation completely within UNIFY without relying on creating the part in the DAW and the step sequencer by nature would be dynamic so you could alter the parameters on the fly.

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So many thoughts today.
With Combobox, MIDIBox, JitterBox, etc., what about some sort of integrated Step Sequencer?

 

Hi Simeon, have you explored the BlueArp's features? It's bundled with Unify and can do a lot of things. You can download this demo patch to see it's potential:

 

https://forums.pluginguru.com/unify-share/stock-cube-1-2-2/

 


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So many thoughts today.
With Combobox, MIDIBox, JitterBox, etc., what about some sort of integrated Step Sequencer?

 

Hi Simeon, have you explored the BlueArp's features? It's bundled with Unify and can do a lot of things. You can download this demo patch to see it's potential:

 

https://forums.pluginguru.com/unify-share/stock-cube-1-2-2/

 

Yes, Blue ARP was my first thought but was not sure if it did this. My first look into Blue ARP was not the best but I will definitely revisit it. Thanks so much Robert.

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There is an algorithm to set High-Low Note priority ("as played" or "as played desc"), there is transposing and note wrapping, chord mode, chords recognition, advanced filtering and many more. 

 

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Adjusting the arrangement elements on the fly – Midi player vs Arp/Sequencer: If I have midi driven bass guitar and a drum groove, and I want to edit the kick drum or bass (i.e. to be triggered at the same time), it is easier for me to use Arp/Sequencer as I can hear the results immediately, and it requires less mouse clicks than the whole Midi edit/import/export process.

I tried almost all available arps/sequencers and at the end I returned to the BlueArp to find out it has everything I need. The interface may look overwhelming, but I got use to it (I had to change the default colour scheme though).


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BlueARP is very powerful, but a lot of people find it confusing. We are definitely considering providing a simpler alternative in future.


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We are definitely considering providing a simpler alternative in future.

The alternative would be very welcome!


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I am with Simeon on this topic. I hope you will come up with a good sequencer-like solution for Midibox, because it is a little bit tedious work to have to go back to the daw to change midi-notes - when you work on a composition you often want to change notes, note lengths, velocity, etc. many, many times...

I will need to get to know BlueArp a little better to see if it can do sequencer-like stuff and not just arps. 

Thank you for always listening to your customers, Shane! John and you are doing a fabulous job in the way you are supporting your software!

Will


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Posted by: @will-josef

I will need to get to know BlueArp a little better to see if it can do sequencer-like stuff and not just arps. 

 

It has a "scale step" mode (+/- 12 semitones) that may help with sequencing


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Here is great freebees:
Step seq: https://vst4free.com/plugin/3210/
Interesting synth: https://vst4free.com/plugin/3211/
Great if they can be included. Anyway you can get them free 🙂


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when use midibox with notes at same high, so it can play the chords you press, then it is a rythm sequencer this way. this is often use. So maybe a easy to add feature to midi box is that there can record note at same high with a record button and an way to edit this single note rythms. this help alot. it need no graphic editor. it can edit with a text editor. for example when steps is 1/8 . it can also support velocity changes if like.      0059+009  1 and 2 step play nothing. 3. step play with vel 60%. 4. step play with velocity 100% and do sustain until 5. step. on 6. 7. step play nothing. on step 8 play vel 100%. i think change such rythms with a text editor faster as when use mouse . it can also possible that the cursor position can move with a controller knob and a press of a midi keyboard key add  or delete a note or do sustain. so can edit with midi keyboard

 


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it need no graphic editor. it can edit with a text editor.

How I wish everyone agreed with you 😇 !

I do have plans to work on a simple MIDI sequencer this year, and it WILL have a graphical interface. People have made some excellent comments here, and I'll pay close attention to them.


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@getdunne can edit with the texteditor i mean a single line string edit box. there is no need for whole text editor. I think for rythm such a string box is very good. it is also possible to copy and paste easy such sequences. for example mark 4 characters( 4 steps), cut them with x and place them on other place.

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@user476565 nice hacker`s approach but not very contemporary 🙂 Earlier i suggested midilooper for quick sequencing realtime. Can be done hands off keyboard while playing.


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@ro-mix

Re "hacker's approach" vs. "contemporary": Simplistic programming methods can be great for prototyping new techniques, which can later become "contemporary", i.e., rebuilt with a nice GUI. GUI development is insanely labor-intensive. Funding the work is usually the biggest challenge.


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Posted by: @ro-mix

@user476565 nice hacker`s approach but not very contemporary 🙂 Earlier i suggested midilooper for quick sequencing realtime. Can be done hands off keyboard while playing.

 

which midilooper do you mean ?. i see only link to b step sequencer you post. i test b step sequencer long time ago but i not like it. My suggstion is too allow realtime recording. but the realtime recordings are then show in a text string as 009+.... or so, and you can edit it, copy, paste rearrange.hacker approach, maybe, one of the first music editors are mod trackers. they still exist and today they have vst support. and i guess they maybe like unify midi box with that feature as step seq.


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