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Hexabuzz
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September 23, 2020 12:46 am  

@getdunne Shane, if this isn't appropriate for this section, or the forum, please move or delete.

Ok, I LOVE unify... But I'm also a pretty basic user with mostly layering and macros, and effects.

I try to watch every livestream that John does, and I totally understand that it's LIVE, and he gets inspired, and takes off on his wonderful creative tangents, and I find myself rewinding, zooming, and trying to reverse engineer how he gets from "Let's call up this new patch" to having 20 layers and it sounding incredible, but nothing like what he started with.

It would be amazing to see somebody make just a 2 minute tutorial video in a structured fashion of Start here > Do this > Do this> Now it sounds like this cool thing exploring and explaining different features of Unify.

If I never do anything else with Unify than what I do now, it has still been a game changer to my creativity and workflow, and I would be satisfied. But I know there's so much more I could be doing, and features that I don't even know about.

Yes, I know, read the manual... Yes, I know, just play and explore... But when I see the different things John does, I know these are creative ideas and options I just wouldn't stumble across. And just think of the benefit to the end users who aren't watching the livestreams and get to see these magic moments happen.

And @pluginguruforums John, if you're reading this, I appreciate EVERYTHING you've done, and not just with Unify. This is NOT a criticism or complaint, but I don't think I'm alone in wanting to learn more and to be able to do the cool things you do - I know you're a busy guy, but even if you did one or 2 "cool patch tweak" 2 or 3 minute videos a week, you'd be giving us an even greater gift of the things we can do with Unify.

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getdunne
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September 23, 2020 2:04 am  

@hexabuzz

I hear you, my friend, and I've passed this message directly over to John. He was already planning to do some more basic "how to" videos, so with any luck your wish will be granted soon.

 


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Hexabuzz
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September 23, 2020 2:11 am  

@getdunne Thanks, Shane!

Might be cool, too, if users shared tips/tutorials as well as patches - Show us what you're doing to make great sounds!


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getdunne
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September 23, 2020 2:45 am  

@hexabuzz

That's what the Unify-Share forum is for, but users often share tips in all the forum topics. I'd advise checking it every few days, and clicking on the "Unread Posts" link at the very bottom each time, to see what's new.


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September 23, 2020 6:00 am  
Posted by: @hexabuzz

@getdunne Thanks, Shane!

Might be cool, too, if users shared tips/tutorials as well as patches - Show us what you're doing to make great sounds!

Hi Hex - I am planning to make a series of videos on short "How To" for Unify. Can you provide a few suggestions of what you would like to see explained? Would "How to use PolyBox" be helpful? Or "How to Change a Dexed Patch to work in a Layer" be helpful? Give me some suggestions if you can and I'll make them happen! 😀 

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Hexabuzz
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September 23, 2020 6:22 am  

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John,

Will do! I'll scan back through some of the livestreams, and poke around some more in Unify and see what mystifies me the most.

Definitely a quick "how to" on Polybox, Jitterbox, and Pumphouse would be appreciated, especially some creative examples in Jitterbox and Pumphouse. Also, some suggestions about applications of macro control of parameters would be cool.

I realize it's more of a creative thing, but I'm always in awe of how you just have this FLASH of "oh, I can do this, too, and it will sound cool", so any sorts of "here's something else to try on your sound" would be welcome.

Thank you again for being so responsive, and for all the great things you and Shane are doing with Unify! You've really given me (and the rest of us) a whole new way of being creative and inspired!


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karlfranz
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September 23, 2020 8:28 am  

Yes, John does seem to frequently diverge onto "inspired creative tangents" doesn't he? I guess it's one of the quirks that makes him so enjoyable to watch. But, I must confess, I do wind up playing the livestreams back at 1.75x speed to skip through and make the videos a little less time consuming to watch.


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Hexabuzz
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September 26, 2020 12:09 pm  

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John,

I want you to know how much I enjoyed and appreciated your "Playing 30 of 505 Unify patches" video that you just posted.

This was about as close to perfect a demo/tutorial as I could have asked for, and I want you to know how much I appreciate it.

I've been a long-time customer of your Omnisphere patches, and when Unify was first announced, I honestly couldn't understand or appreciate why I would be interested in it, but I eventually decided to take the plunge because I know how good your work is, and you seemed very excited about this. I think part of my wariness came from what I felt to be a heavy EDM and BPM patches and demo feel. I like this style of music, but I don't play or write it, so it left me feeling like this wasn't a product I could really use in my normal workflow. As time went on, and I continued to watch the livestreams and videos, I began to feel more and more like this was something I could use and enjoy, and how great a product it was.

If I had seen the video you did today first, my mind would have been completely blown, and I would have immediately been on board. PLEASE don't take this as a negative comment - I just want you to know how much you reached me today with what you did, and I'm sure there are a lot of other folks out there who would see something like this and immediately know that this was something they could use and benefit from.

The most important thing I want you to know, though, is how much I enjoyed your PLAYING. I know how great of a sound designer you are, and I know how good you are at doing your livestreams and demos, and showing us these patches, but I think today was the first time I ever heard you PLAY, and I loved hearing how great a musician you are. And that love made every preset and sound you played just shine... It just felt like every note you played was your love of the music and the sound you had created combining into those notes...

Thank you for your patches and your programming, and your help and your tips and your humor and your kindness...

And thank you, too, for your MUSIC...


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TKBoomer
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September 28, 2020 6:02 pm  

 Hi John,  I too much appreciate all the work you've done.  If were to add a few suggestions here, the first thing would to carefully describe each action you're taking when you do it.  On a couple of occasions, I have found myself rewinding a section of a video several times to see if I can catch where you're moving your cursor.  Another suggestion would be a directory thing where once a video is done, reference points are added to tell the viewer specifically where to go in the timeline to see an explanation.   Then third suggestion would be to watch the geek speak.  You're actually pretty good at this compared to most others I watch but occasionally I find myself unfamiliar with the terminology you're using.  This may be a demographic problem because at 68 I'm likely older than most of your clients and didn't grow up with LFOs and oscillators.  I've learned a lot but occasionally I find myself thrown by unfamiliar terminology.   Still, I love Unify and your patches!


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September 29, 2020 2:53 am  

I'm very glad the new video was helpful - all the ideas here are great and I'll be making short videos explaining these along with other abilities in the coming weeks. 

 

Keep the ideas coming and I sincerely appreciate the feedback!

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Hexabuzz
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October 2, 2020 4:42 am  

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John, I wanted to say thanks for the latest "Unify installed... Now what?" video - these short videos are great and are very helpful.

I also wanted to comment on what I think was a HUGE missed opportunity for introducing people to a ton of Unify features in an easy to understand way, and maybe it can still happen. Again, PLEASE understand that I'm not annoyed or upset, I just want to learn and take advantage of all the great stuff you've given us to work with! 🙂

So unless I missed something (and I've searched, so I don't think I have), there isn't any in-depth discussion of the Arrival I-IV patches. Honestly, I never even knew they were there until I saw you playing Arrival II in the new video, and I went over to Unify to check it out.

It was then that I discovered that there were the I-IV versions, and started to figure out that these were meant to be sort of an evolving demo of the features of Unify 1.1.

So at first I was a little confused that Arrival IV was the "Welcome to Unify 1.1" finished version of the patch - Maybe this should have been #1 in the series?

Then I went back to I-III and realized that these were the evolution of Arrival IV, and through a lot of trial and error and poking around, figured out a lot of what you had done to get to that finished version.

It would be great if there were a video where you started at IV, playing it, and telling us "This is what you can end up at with all these other cool things Unify has", and then going back to the beginning of how you got there.

So I went back to Arrival I and figured out how MIDIBox was contributing to both the chords and rhythmic pattern. I also discovered the MIDI Files folder, and how loading a different file actually works, which I never really understood before.

I'm still digging into Arrival II, but I'm seeing how you loaded a whole Unify patch as an instrument multiple times, although I'm still trying to figure out Polybox, and the difference between the Arena Entry PolyChords.mid MIDI file and the Arena Entry Chords.mid MIDI file (which is polyphonic). I also get the concept of JitterBox, but how can I control the Time Jitter setting to be the same across all the layers? Or do I have to change each one manually so they all have the same time? I'm also confused by the effects implementation with Aux1, Aux2, and the Master Effects. Even bypassed, I don't think I'm hearing any differences being contributed by the delay or reverb (I'm assuming a lot of the reverb is already baked into the sample based on your previous comments about how the MegaMagic sounds were created).

As for Arrival III, I'm the first to admit I'm pretty clueless when it comes to groove creation, so I could really use a ground up explanation of how all this is coming together. I looked at some of the individual Unify layers inside the patch, and even further nested Unify files inside those (and further down, stuff like the Super Pop Kit where you start talking about Stacks) - I really feel like I'm down deep in a rabbit hole where everything I touch just leads me deeper - Maybe some other time we could get into how you even start creating stuff like that...

And so now I'm full circle back to Arrival IV... It looks like Instrument 9, "5 Unify in a Single UnifyDrum Groove!" is not Arrival III, but rather a new composite preset. And Instrument 10 is Skelter Synchro Pulse bass.

Ok... My head really hurts now... I'm sure as I dig deeper into this I'll have more questions but I've definitely learned a lot...


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