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Unify layer that sends MIDI bank/program select message to hardware synths

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(@xtheunknown)
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Is there a way to setup a Unify layer that outputs a MIDI bank/program select message? I’d love to be able to link my hardware synthesizers as part of a Unify program and be able to treat a hardware synth much like a VSTi is treated in Unify (key range, velocity range, etc) and be able to select which hardware synth preset will play along with my Unify program. Is there a VSTi for Mac that does something like this, or is there a way to set this up natively in Unify?

Your help is greatly appreciated!


   
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Posted by: @xtheunknown

Is there a way to setup a Unify layer that outputs a MIDI bank/program select message?

Unify does not support MIDI-out. We're working on an add-on update which will allow this.

 


   
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Posted by: @xtheunknown

Is there a way to setup a Unify layer that outputs a MIDI bank/program select message?

Unify does not support MIDI-out. We're working on an add-on update which will allow this.

 

Thanks so much for the timely response! When is the anticipated release date (roughly) for the MIDI out feature? This feature (assuming you could have MIDI OUT layers) would take Unify to the next level, in my opinion.

In the meantime, can you think of any temporary workarounds? Might multiple instances of Blue Cat’s remote control work? Any other ideas?

 


   
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Posted by: @xtheunknown

When is the anticipated release date (roughly) for the MIDI out feature?

I've been trying to get this out for so long (more urgent issues keep cropping up) that I've given up trying to estimate release dates. I'm still hoping for "before the end of the year".

In the meantime, can you think of any temporary workarounds? Might multiple instances of Blue Cat’s remote control work? Any other ideas?

I think you mean Blue Cat's Connector. I just tried it, sending from a Connector instance in Unify to another in the Kushview Element app, and it worked, but the performance was quite poor. To avoid "dropouts" (lost data packets, leading to missed or stuck notes), I had to increase the amount of buffering so much that the latency made it unusable. Your mileage may vary, but be warned. The in-Unify solution I'm working on does not have this issue.

 


   
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@getdunne 

 

LOL.  A brand new Unify user here, and I came to this particular thread just now to ask exactly the same question (grin)!

I would LOVE to be able to use Unify to send program changes to my hardware synths.  Even better if there

was some way to send CC messages to make basic parameter changes. And last,  possibly apply Unify audio effects to the synths audio.

I realize that the latter request would probably be too much to ask, as it would require adding MainStage-like functionality to work with an audio

interface.  But even if the added functionality were limited to sending program changes and basic CC messages to control the hardware synth volume,

pan and mute/solo parameters, it would obviate almost all of the need to use a live performance management program like MainStage, Gig Performer, or

Camelot.

 

But actually, that's not the main reason for my posting a reply here.  I simply wanted to ask/confirm if one could effectively

accomplish the same thing (i.e. control Unify patches and external device patches at the same time) by in fact using a program

like MainStage in conjunction with Unify's recently added ability to accept patch changes via MIDI (using Unify's MIDI bank file subfolder)?  

MainStage could then control the hardware devices and call up any desired Unify patch to handle management of all software plug-ins.

I just wanted to confirm if this was doable, and also ask if there any do's/don'ts tips that I should be aware of?


   
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@sjmarano

Yes, you should be able to use one or more instances of Unify in MainStage, together with one or more External Instrument instances controlling hardware MIDI keyboards or modules, and use MIDI Bank Files to set up MIDI-based patch switching in Unify. I'm pretty sure at least some Unify customers are already doing so.


   
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Thanks!  By the way,  I just posted a request for advice related to this on the "Questions about Unify" forum.  I figured that was a more appropriate forum for such 'newbie' questions (grin).


   
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