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Cherry Audio GX-80 factory patches zipped but not completely Unified

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(@craigr68)
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I attached GX-80.zip containing 952 patches created by Autohotkey script.  This is not a .guru file that is ready to install.  I was hoping someone (preferably Shane) would like to, please take it to the .guru level.  I attached a screenshot showing the starting patch.  I'm not sure what is wanted for tags so I just have my generic ones in there for all patches.  I think maybe Shane's tools like MetadataUpdater, PatchReformer, etc can alter what's needed.

Possible issues:

Tags need updating

Layer1 Vol I have set to -5.98db because Cherry Audio levels tend to run a little hot.

Transport is set to Manual start/stop

All macros are completely initialized

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Thank you for the preliminary library. I'll pass this on to John, who does the library finalization, BUT we might need you to do this again, or I may need to redo it myself, to get the tags right.

I have attached the AHK script I used for CA Sines, which would need only minor modification to use for GX-80. I normally do one category of presets at a time, so I can set the tags manually for the first one, and they will be retained for the remainder. With all tags being the same, there isn't any way I can write a program or script to magically fix them on a per-category basis.

 


   
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@getdunne 

Could you send me a screenshot of the correct tags - like for what the starter patch should be?  I don't know what is desired for Categories, Tags, or Authors.  Is Category just BRASS, KEYS, etc?  I especially don't know how Tags are determined - seems subjective in some cases.  I don't see in your script where you save tags, so I presume they are derived from the starter first patch?


   
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I attached a screenshot taken from the Cherry Audio Quadra library at your website.  I could use that library as a template for tags and change mine to something that simple if that's good enough.  It'll be a few hours cuz other things going on.  Any other changes needed?  How about the -5.98db level?  I meant that to be either -4 or -6db but must have bumped the setting somehow.  Levels look good to me like that though.

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@craigr68

Yes, that's a good way to do it. I generally only set the Category (manually) for each group of presets, and also the Author to "Cherry Audio" and the Comment to "Factory presets by Cherry Audio". Also, note I set the Library Name, which in this case would be "Unified - CA GX-80".

I believe John and Taylor add Tags to each patch manually, when they "finalize" them by adding AUX FX lanes and macro parameter assignments.


   
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@craigr68 - generally we receive the Unified libraries and there are some tags attached to the patches, we don't manually assign tags to the Unified libraries because I would be 200 years old before I was done doing that. If you can add a category and simple tags that would be really appreciated. We created a naming guidelines PDF a while back - read it here for more juicy details on naming patches the PlugInGuru way:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8e7zjdfyu9wkm7o/Unify%20Patch%20Naming%20Structure.pdf?dl=0

 

Please let me know here or via unifysupport@pluginguru.com if you are doing another pass/conversion of the patches. I can also add tags pretty quickly thanks to our software tools as long as the names have BASS / KEY / SYNTH at the start per our naming protocols.

 

Thank you for contributing!

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I did not have to redo the whole autohotkey process.  I used PatchReformer to set Layer1 volume to -5db for all patches.  This can be easily changed but I found that to be a good average to prevent clipping.

I used thsve database utility and set all the tags as we discussed above - see example screenshot.  Thanks thsve.  I used Quadra and Memorymode libraries as example on how to set tags - let me know if there are problems, cuz it's fairly easily fixed.  Changed database name to "Unified - CA GX-80"

I discovered that I had previously left out 2 categories - BASSES and BELLS - so I added those in - now there are 1067 total patches 

I assume you want this in zip format so you can test it and turn it into a .guru install file.  I'll let you deal with Aux layers, Macros and Transport - I see Quadra and Memorymode libraries have 3 reverbs on one Aux layer. 

 

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One other thing - I was testing a bunch of the presets and noticed my sustain pedal wasn't working for just this library.  But if I add Midi Filter in front and turn on Sustain Pedal emulate, it works.  So maybe that should be added to every patch.  It would be easy to do with PatchReformer.  Anybody else experiencing this?  Quadra and Memorymode don't do this.  Maybe there's something in the manual about it because I haven't had time to check there.

Update: found this in manual 

"Note: There is no way to get an infinite sustain when keys are released as may be possible on other synthesizers. Released notes always decay, similar to on a piano with the sustain pedal down. To keep a note sustaining indefinitely, its key must be held down."

However, despite what they say, with Sustain Pedal emulate there is a way to sustain indefinitely - Unify excels again!

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After playing with this synth and reading the manual more, I think it would "not" be good to put in the Midi Filter (Sustain Pedal emulate) for the library.  It explains on page 42-44 how they've set up sustain to work and it has some benefits.  However, I think I will put in Midi Filter for some of my own custom patches where I want it to sustain indefinitely.


   
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Thank you so much for all of this, Craig! I'm building the official version and will release it Friday to everybody!

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@pluginguruforums - I'm brand new to this forum, sorry if this has already been asked & answered, where is the link for the official release? I just got CA's GX-80 and I've got a fever for the Unified version. I checked the "Official List" in the forum, but I didn't spot it there. Thanks!


   
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Actually - never mind! Found it at the bottom of the Unify page. Duh!


   
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