Spitfire Audio - Eric Whitacre Choir Unified - Now Available

Really appreciate the UNIFIED libraries - sadly they're all hard to use since they are all 100% Panned left, -36 Semitones tuned down and with 0% volume!!

Is there any way to quickly edit the .unify files to reset these?

Posted by: @jimdigritz

Really appreciate the UNIFIED libraries - sadly they're all hard to use since they are all 100% Panned left, -36 Semitones tuned down and with 0% volume!!

Is there any way to quickly edit the .unify files to reset these?

As your screenshot shows, this is an issue with the choir plug-in, not Unify, so the information isn't easily accessible in the .unify files.

I doubt very much that @praisetracks would publish a library like this. My best guess is there may be a difference between the version of the choir plug-in used to create the library, and the version you're using to load it.

@getdunne Thanks - I just assumed that he had some other setup on his side which automatically changed those settings (eg like a CC Fader assigned to Pan, which was set to 50% - but when loaded without it defaulted to 0)

This happened with the last version of EWC (was just updated by Spitfire, which was why I tried this again!)

Not sure how I'd rectify this bar going in and re-saving each instance...

I was kinda hoping to be able to bulk Find & Replace something as easy as this!! 😉

var Pan=0

Ah well!

Posted by: @jimdigritz

@getdunne Thanks - I just assumed that he had some other setup on his side which automatically changed those settings (eg like a CC Fader assigned to Pan, which was set to 50% - but when loaded without it defaulted to 0)

This happened with the last version of EWC (was just updated by Spitfire, which was why I tried this again!)

Not sure how I'd rectify this bar going in and re-saving each instance...

I was kinda hoping to be able to bulk Find & Replace something as easy as this!! 😉

var Pan=0

 

Ah well!

 

OUCH!!!!
So sorry for this.

I pulled it up and you are absolutely correct.

I had linked Tune and Pan to the Linked Parameters knobs on the 2nd layer of the Unify Knob bank.

I will try and make a correction and provide an update.

Again, I am so sorry for my oversight on this. 
Thanks for pointing it out as when you are putting these together you lose sight of things as there are so many parameters and patches you are dealing with and it all runs together, that is why it is so good to have a few users take it out for a test drive to expose the bugs and oversights.

Stay tuned!
Simeon

@praisetracks Thanks Simeon - obviously goes without saying that we all appreciate the huge effort that you put into these!!!

Love the YT livestreams as well!!

Have an amazing day!

Posted by: @jimdigritz

@praisetracks Thanks Simeon - obviously goes without saying that we all appreciate the huge effort that you put into these!!!

Love the YT livestreams as well!!

Have an amazing day!

Jim,

Sorry for my delay in responding to this.

I think the easiest approach would be for me to DELETE GLOBAL PAN and TUNE, as really these parameters might not be best suited for Macro Knob Control as they should be fairly static.

I will work on updating the patch library and post an updated file.

Thanks so much for the kind words of support.
Joyfully,

Simeon

So another quick follow-up.
This is another one of those "life lessons" that your mom and dad are always talking about except it would be John and Shane ;^)
It all has to do with not getting in a hurry and making sure that the very first Unified patch you are creating has everything in place that you ant and that the parameters are exactly where they need to be.

The problem is when you go off willy-nilly like I did, thinking everything was alright (and not going through a detailed check before proceeding), you wind up doing more than a hundred patches and then finding out that something was broken or not working properly as we have here.

Basically the more I started looking at things the more it seems that I need to do a somewhat overhaul on this entire patch library as I am finding too many things that just do not feel consistent.

The other aspect is determining at the beginning exactly what actually needs a Macro Knob and what is possibly overkill to create a knob that no one will actually use. My thought was to create some type of parity with the plugin and the Macro Knobs.

So once again, thanks for the kind support and patience as I work through this.
One feature that I would LOVE to see is some sort of COPY/PASTE Macro Knob VALUES to help with not only Unified library creation but also to make it easier to correct patches when things blow up.

Joyfully!
Simeon

Posted by: @praisetracks

One feature that I would LOVE to see is some sort of COPY/PASTE Macro Knob VALUES

Thank you for the detailed feedback, and for slogging through this process. I've added this to the to-do list.

EDIT: Already there. Right-click the knob and choose "copy value" or "paste value".

Hello everyone,

I am so sorry for the hassle of not getting this right the first time.
Fortunately, I found a great little helper app called Tinytask that allowed me to speed up the process.

Here is an updated version of the EWC Unified Library, hopefully with all of the assignments corrected.

https://bit.ly/SpitfireAudio_EricWhitacreChoir_UnifiedV2

Please check it out and let me know if you run into anything further and I will make sure it gets corrected.

Thanks again!
Joyfully!

Simeon

@praisetracks 

Is this the same unification that John mentioned? I also had problems with it. After recording a midi track by loading Spitfire Epic Choirs directly in Unify, I switched to the Unified version, and it did not play at all. I discovered that the transpositions in the unified version put it out of range of the library.

Posted by: @mschiff

@praisetracks 

Is this the same unification that John mentioned? I also had problems with it. After recording a midi track by loading Spitfire Epic Choirs directly in Unify, I switched to the Unified version, and it did not play at all. I discovered that the transpositions in the unified version put it out of range of the library.

No, this is for the Spitfire Audio Eric Whitacre Choir, not the new Originals Epic Choir.

What you mention is interesting, I will see what is happening here with Epic Choir and the Unified version.

@praisetracks 

thank you SOOO much for posting this.

Have been wanting to use the choir in a live setting but couldnt get used to using the modwheel to change the dynamics.

Have now had a play with Unify and set up five layers each with different velocity settings so can play with some expression and dynamic range.

Thanks again for spending the time doing this it must have taken ages !!

Going back to play with it now…..endless combinations !!

@praisetracks Hi Simeon - would love to see you demonstrate EWC in Unify sometime in your livestream.