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Can't see effects in a direct chain off an instrument when there are more than a few

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(@kpsiegel)
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I am running Unify 1.9.1 but this is applicable to all versions afaik. If I create an instrument layer and then add effects to the layer, after just a few effects I can't tell what effect is where and what is linked. There is no way to do an "expand" for want of a better term to see the effect names in a layer. Maybe I am missing something here. It makes experimenting with long chains of effects in Unify a little daunting. Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated.


   
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Robert.P
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Hi, you can try a "ComboBox" on FX Layer with all the effects in it


   
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(@getdunne)
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@kpsiegel

We experimented with an "expanded" view in the past, but weren't happy with the results. This remains on our to-do list.

In the meantime:

  1. You can add an AUX layer, to get a bit more room a longer effects chain (put 3-4 effects on the INST layer, 5-6 more in AUX).
  2. You can resize the Unify window to make it wider.
  3. If you roll your mouse over each effect box, the name of the effect will be displayed as a pop-up "tooltip".

   
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(@thsve)
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@getdunne 

The problem with your workaround 3 is that if the window is ”to narrow”, some of the effect boxes are out of view totally(hidden). No indication that more effects are present at all than the visible ones.

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Posted by: @thsve

@getdunne 

The problem with your workaround 3 is that if the window is ”to narrow”, some of the effect boxes are out of view totally(hidden). No indication that more effects are present at all than the visible ones.

Indeed, it's not perfect. Thanks for reporting; I didn't realize until now that some effect-boxes could actually get cut off, rather than just being squashed.


   
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(@kpsiegel)
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@kpsiegel

We experimented with an "expanded" view in the past, but weren't happy with the results. This remains on our to-do list.

In the meantime:

  1. You can add an AUX layer, to get a bit more room a longer effects chain (put 3-4 effects on the INST layer, 5-6 more in AUX).
  2. You can resize the Unify window to make it wider.
  3. If you roll your mouse over each effect box, the name of the effect will be displayed as a pop-up "tooltip".

So solution three is problematic as was pointed out. As for solution one, I would assume that the aux send has to be 100% for this to work and I am assuming that the aux send happens AFTER all the inline effects chain. Is that correct? As far as resizing the window, of course I could do that but it becomes a serious headache to blast an enormous window over everything else just to solve this problem. I can also check out the ComboBox solution suggested as I have never done that before.

Loving Unify 1.9.1 either way FYI. Great work and an incredible value. Can't wait to see what features are yet to come.


   
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Posted by: @kpsiegel

As for solution one, I would assume that the aux send has to be 100% for this to work and I am assuming that the aux send happens AFTER all the inline effects chain. Is that correct?

The aux send is routed from the end of the INST-layer's inline effects chain; see https://pluginguru.net/unify/manual/doku.php?id=layer-stack-view#signal_flow_in_instrument_layers

To ensure there is no added gain/attenuation, the INST layer's aux-send knob should be set to 0 dB, not all the way up which is +10 dB. Double-click the aux-send knob to set it to exactly 0 dB.


   
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