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Padster13
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November 21, 2020 5:48 pm  

I've never been able to get a sample of mine to show up in the Guru Sampler's browser. I have created the Samples Folder as per John's instruction in Unify's root directory alongside the Libraries, Midi Bank Files and Presets Folders. I am on vers 1.2.4/61 Unify. I'm assuming that wave files should show? If I'm wrong then that's my problem. The path is F:\PlugInGuru\Unify\Samples. I note that the Mac path is HD/Users/Shared/PluginGuru/Unify/Samples. Is my path the PC equivalent?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks Paul

 


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getdunne
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November 21, 2020 6:00 pm  

@padster13

Provided your new Samples folder is sibling to the Libraries and Presets folders, you're in the right place. Inside that Samples folder, Guru Sampler is expecting to see multiple sub-folders, each containing SFZ files and samples.

Guru Sampler has three drop-down menus for selecting samples. The leftmost one is for choosing a library; to select your own Samples folder instead, choose the first item "[samples folder]". The middle one is for choosing one of the sub-folders. The rightmost menu is for choosing one of the SFZ files in the selected sub-folder.

The process of getting your own samples into Guru Sampler is still pretty raw, and we don't support it (although we suffer with it ourselves), but it's documented in reasonable detail in the Unify manual at https://pluginguru.net/unify/manual/doku.php?id=sampler-import.


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Padster13
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November 21, 2020 6:13 pm  

Thanks Shane. I understand why it isn't working for my Wave files! Thanks for the link. I am going to buy the Zamper Pack so I should be ok once I have set up aliases.

Great work on Unify.

Thank you for the swift "Saturday Night" reply as always!

 

regards

Paul


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sonyroc
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November 22, 2020 10:49 am  

Hello everyone, for those who have downloaded the Zampler-RX bundle, please find attached the batch file to create the symbolic links on Windows. The batch file is to be copied into your Samples folder (see Unify screenshot), to customize the path inside, then to be run "as administrator" in a "command prompt" window.
For information: to remove a link, run the command: rmdir "your symbolic link".
I imagine those in the "Mac" world will be figuring out what to do to adapt this script or revisit the Saturday night livestream.

Can someone tell me if the "... \ ... \ Zampler \ Zampler_Assault \ Zampler Assault folder in your home is full?

Have fun and have a nice day.


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Robert Pryke
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November 22, 2020 3:33 pm  

@sonyroc  Thanks for the batch file.  

@getdunne I'm still having the issue with the Sample folder I was bringing up yesterday.

 

**EDIT** I moved the files to my PluginGuru Documents folder instead based off the batch file Sonyroc did.  That solved the issue.

 

As you can see from the screenshot attached I have a Sample folder and Sym Links and raw files inside.

The sym links were to the subfolders.

https://imgur.com/a/6IDZbBK

 

I've also attached how my Guru Sampler is greyed out to select any samples.

I've tried running Unify as a system administrator, thinking that might have been the issue, but that's not it either.

 

Tech info:

Unify 1.2.4/61

Win10

 

Folder Structure:

C:\Program Files\PlugInGuru\Unify\Samples

Sym Link command I ran for a particular folder:

mklink /d "C:\Program Files\PlugInGuru\Unify\Samples\Zampler Yamaha DX7" "B:\Downloads\Zampler\Zampler_Yamaha_DX7\Zampler Yamaha DX7"

 

As you can see I did a directory link to my 2nd SSD on the B Drive to my Zampler location.

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Robert Pryke
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November 22, 2020 3:48 pm  

@getdunne  I think I figured it out now.  Looking at the batch file, I have the Samples folder in the Program Folder, not the Documents folder.

Leaving my previous message up, in case anyone else has the same issue as I did.


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Robert Pryke
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November 22, 2020 3:53 pm  

@sonyroc My Zampler Assualt folder has 1591 files.


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sonyroc
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November 22, 2020 4:09 pm  

@robert-pryke, the "Samples" folder must be created in the "data folder" of your "Unify" installation (see PDF file).
Then a symbolic link is written like this:
mklink / d "link name" "name of folder to reach".
There you have it, this is how @Shane planned to work in Guru Sampler. Do not hesitate to review the Saturday livestream; John explained this well.
Cordially.

Edit : @robert-pryke, can you email me (@gmail.com) a link to get the Assault files?


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mschiff
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November 23, 2020 2:29 am  

I set up Zampler this afternoon as per John's instructions in the Livestream. It works fine for me. I installed all of the Zampler content files on my sample drive, and on the same drive (that is my Unify drive as well), I created a Samples folder under my Unify folder as a sibling to the other folders there, and then created symbolic links to all the content folders that were in the install of the Zampler package. It took about 30 minutes to do all of them. I used Link Shell Extension in Windows 10 64bit (  https://download.cnet.com/Link-Shell-Extension-64-bit/3000-2248_4-75213087.html ), which makes it very easy. Just right click the source and drop it in the folder as a symlink. Much easier (and less prone to error) than using a command line. 

This way, I have only one set of files that can be used both in Zampler and in Unify.


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mschiff
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November 23, 2020 2:34 am  

@sonyroc

The Zampler Assault content folder on my install has 1591 files, and they do work in Guru Sampler. 


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J Hall
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November 23, 2020 7:50 am  

@mschiff Thanks for the information re Zampler. I'm still wondering whether it's worth the approximately 100 Gb reduction in disk space (then again Black Friday SSD prices are looking good).

Note that your Link Shell Extension hyperlink doesn't work due to the comma and right bracket which have been included in the link. 

Here's a working version https://download.cnet.com/Link-Shell-Extension-64-bit/3000-2248_4-75213087.html  

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mschiff
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November 23, 2020 8:45 am  

@zinct

Thanks, I fixed the link.

My sampler storage SSD was 3/4 full, so I upgraded from a 1tb to a 2tb. $199 from Amazon on sale. I ordered at 1am and got it before 9am.

Had everything copied before noon, and the disk swapped out in the afternoon after brunch.


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J Hall
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November 23, 2020 9:18 am  

@mschiff

Amazon (UK) had a great deal on a 4Tb WD Blue SATA SSD drive for £288 the other morning but it was while I was asleep. When I saw it in the morning they had run out of stock. Could've kicked myself.  Anyway, I'm looking at a 2Tb MX500 SATA drive (£155) to accompany my 1Tb MX500 SATA and 2 x 1Tb NVMe M.2 Adata drives. 


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getdunne
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November 23, 2020 4:22 pm  

One small thought to add to this discussion about sample storage:

Because Guru Sampler doesn't do streaming (it loads all samples linked from a SFZ file into memory), ultra-fast storage is not strictly necessary, as it will only affect how quickly a group of samples loads, not how smoothly they play. Based on what I've observed running Unify in a debugger, Zampler seems to be the same. For monster sample collections like this, you could use a cheap spinning-disk drive instead of an SSD, with little impact on usability.


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